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ruslang
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USA
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 Posted - 01/09/2003 : 6:05:35 PM
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does anybody experience connection problems ipaq hp 5450 or 5455 to socket bluetooth gps? here's what I get:
most of the time bluetooth manager connects to BTGPS right away, sometimes I have to delete the shortcut to BTGPS and add it all over again, otherwise i get constant "connection failed". once I recreate the shortcut to the serial port i can connect again.
once connected, i can't get it to work with GPS software (tried TeleType GPS, Destinator 1.8, Destinator 2.0.6, Pocket Streets 2003). the problem occurs as soon as I try to connect to COM8, the 5450 starts bluetooth console looking for something, (hour glass stays all the time and nothing happens - once i waited for an hour), and this is where I have to soft reset the ipaq. all 4 GPS packages have exactly the same problem.
here's what i've tried to solve the problem with no success:
1) hard reset the ipaq
2) in destinator 2.0.6 i've tried all speeds from 4800 to 57600 with both siri and nmea protocols for each speed, same problem when trying to connect to port 8
3) all the other available ports (just in case), though bluetooth manager shows only COM5 for in and COM8 for out on BTGPS
anybody have any thoughts?
TIA, rg |
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johnd
Mobility Advocate
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 01/10/2003 : 10:30:28 AM
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rg,
Welcome to the forum.
I was testing/playing a HP iPAQ 5455 just yesterday. As with it's predecessors, there are two Bluetooth COM ports. For user initiated serial communication, you can only use COM 8. I used a small application to test the connection over the COM port without issue. I will test some routing software later today, but so far I have not found anything. It appears to be an issue with the iPAQ since you have already DISCOVERED the GPS unit, there should not be an issue.
Have you logged a call with Socket Support yet??
Regards,
John |
John Doub
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johnmvh
New Member
2 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2003 : 10:05:34 PM
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i also have the ipaq 5450 with bt gps, can get the shortcut made to
the gps from the ipaq and get a connection. the bt only offers com port 5 for inbound and 8 for out bound. my delorme software and pocket streets only offer com ports 1,3,5 and 1,3,6 respectively. how do i get a gps signal to my software? noticed others having similar problems keeping connections and finding com ports
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John M. Vander Haag
www.vanderhaags.com
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dhettel
Senior Member
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2003 : 11:14:10 PM
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That is going to be a delorme problem. Sounds like they decided to hard code the bluetooth ports out to me. Until delorme offers an update it will not be usable, with the bluetooth GPS.
David Hettel |
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johnd
Mobility Advocate
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2003 : 12:59:55 PM
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David and John,
All of the Compaq/HP iPAQ Pocket PCs with built-in Bluetooth only allow you to connect to another Bluetooth serial COM by using COM8, so you should be sure to only purchase/evaluate software that allows you to use COM 1-9. Several other GPS software applications out there are also hardcoded on their COM port usage.  
Regards,
John |
John Doub
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CK
New Member
United Kingdom
1 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2003 : 01:54:51 AM
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HI
I live in the UK and use TomTom software with my 5450 and Socket GPS without any problems, the Tomtom software is excellent but they do not currently have USA software.
The is a solution to the problem of software that requires a specific com port rather than letting you select the port that your Socket unit has available (COM8)
You will need a registry editor (like running regedit in Windows) http://www.phm.lu/products/PocketPC/RegEdit/ this one is free to download.
The registry hack that you require is as follows;
Go to Hotkey Local Machine\Drivers\Builtin\Serial8 and change 'Index' from 8 to 3. Softreset your PPC.
This will now let you select com 3 (or whichever port you change as above) and link it to COM8 where your Socket device lives.
I found this information on another site, a friend of mine has tried it and it works fine. Please be careful as with regedit on a desktop PC you can cause damage to other apps etc if you change the wrong areas.
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zipper9
New Member
United Kingdom
3 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2003 : 08:21:49 AM
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Hi All!
iv'e just purchased the emtac and ipaq 5450
i'm having the same problem as the first user post here
my ipaq is detecting the blutooth gps device with no problem ,
but when im actually trying to use port 8 for any program ( destinator in this case ) it's just get freeze trying to "browse" for a bluetooth device????
i was wondering if i need to :
1. bond the devices with the code
2. hack the registry as suggested
plz plz plz if anyone know how to fix this issue , i'll be greatfull.
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geofa
Senior Member
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Posted - 01/24/2003 : 1:43:05 PM
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I don't know if this will help-but I couldn't get my bluetooth to active sync with my desktop. After spending two days-I found that the security settings for each device were a little different. By changing them to be the same (encryption, passkey) that did the trick.
Apparently though, if you have a program that does not allow comm 8 to be used you are out of luck. |
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IpaqAdrian
New Member
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Posted - 01/28/2003 : 3:36:25 PM
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In response to CK's post above, I tried this on my iPAQ 3870, and each time I changed the setting in the registry, pocket streets and trips would avoid the port connected to BT. (i.e. com3 was no longer offered, just 2 & 9)
CK, you mentioned a friend had tried this, was there any other steps? what was the exact config ?
so close ..... |
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ruslang
New Member
USA
2 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2003 : 3:34:22 PM
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Here's a temporary fix for destinator 2.0.6 (provided by destinator technical support). i just finished the testing and very happy that it works on my 5450. As far as i understand powerloc will release a patch sometime in the future.
Please, try following ( you must be in a place where you are able to get GPS signal):
1. Connect BT GPS to your PDA via serial port.
2. Start Destinator
3. Go to GPS Status/GPS Settings
4. In Bluetooth Browser click on BT GPS icon
5. Back in GPS Settings screen click on AutoSearch only (do not click on anything else)
6. In Bluetooth Browser click on BT GPS icon once more. A device should start browse through different COM ports.
7.When it stops at COM 8, click on BT GPS icon once more.
8. When back in GPS Status screen, click on HOME.
The next time you start Destinator, you will need to click on BT GPS icon just once, before Warning screen.
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rem
Member
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Posted - 02/14/2003 : 5:14:19 PM
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I used Destinator with my new 5450 without problems. I ended up returning the 5450 because it's speaker is about half the volume of previous iPaqs (voice nav was too hard to hear), plus the new small "joystick" is just too small for in-car ease of use.
I went to a 3975 which also works great with the socket BT and Destinator, Mapopolis, and PMN. |
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johnd
Mobility Advocate
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2003 : 9:44:39 PM
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rem,
Be sure that you register your Socket Bluetooth GPS Receiver, just in case you decide to use Socket's personal routing software other than your current one. I used the one that you mention, but I think that you will find MyNavigator more to your Pocket PC prone desires. 
Regards,
John |
John Doub
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rem
Member
9 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2003 : 1:46:04 PM
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| Yes John I did register, when can we get MyNavigator? I'm ready, bring it on! |
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sbarnett
New Member
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2003 : 8:09:39 PM
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What GPS software is reccomended for use with the HP IPAQ 5450 given the COM port issue? Has anyone had success with Mapopolis products? Thanks for your response |
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rem
Member
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Posted - 02/25/2003 : 08:56:53 AM
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| Mapopolis will work just fine. You may want to wait on the Socket MyNavigator product, or just get both, cause one is never enough! |
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johnd
Mobility Advocate
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2003 : 08:57:44 AM
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To all:
The first time that you run Socket's MyNavigator personal routing software, it automatically detects the assigned COM port if you are using a Socket Bluetooth CF Card OR an iPAQ with Bluetooth embedded. If you have another Bluetooth plug-in solution, you simply run the Auto Detect feature and then you get connected. 
Regards,
John |
John Doub
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LuckyDag1
New Member
USA
2 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2003 : 01:03:04 AM
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| where can I get MyNavigator I haven't been able to find it on the site anywhere? |
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VoleGPS
New Member
Canada
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Posted - 02/27/2003 : 10:19:11 PM
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I was in geek heaven today I drove from Ottawa to Kingston with my Destinator 2.06 and my Bluetooth GPRS.
When I was a kid I use to say look ma no hands; now I say look ma no wires. 
I do not know what I particularly did to get it to work. I fiddled with it I used the auto search and I also clicked on it in the BT manager and forced it to connect.
I also tried Pocket Streets and trips but could not get it to use/recognise comm. 8.
I am in the process of logging a tech support issue has anyone gotten any feed back from them on this issue should I bother?
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johnd
Mobility Advocate
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2003 : 11:06:04 PM
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VoleGPS,
Welcome to the forum.
Try making the GPS a TRUSTED device. The Bluetooth passkey is "0183" when you are challenged. Let us know if that makes it work. Streets does not support COM8. 
Regards,
John |
John Doub
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MyForest
New Member
3 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2003 : 3:25:23 PM
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I too have an iPaq5450 and the Socket BT GPS. They seem to work really well together except that I occasionally find the automatic jump to select the bluetooth device locks up and I have to soft reset. This is the same problem described by others earlier.
I have to say that the device is so slim and light that I'm stunned - it's really convenient to carry.
I was cycling to work this morning and using my iPaq as a "speedo" to see how fast I was going. The only thing to remember is too look up once in a while to see if you are heading for a tree
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mwarner
New Member
USA
2 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2003 : 06:17:38 AM
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John,
You mention that Pocket Streets does not support COM8. Will the patch discussed above provide the support? I love the MyNavigator software but the maps are not detailed enough. Are there updates available?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Warner Technology, Inc. |
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johnd
Mobility Advocate
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2003 : 08:38:43 AM
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Mike,
I am not sure if Microsoft is planning an update or not. MyNavigator does have a sweet Points of Interest database that allows you to look up a variety of things like gas stations, airports, parking garages, restaurants, entertainment, and more. That along with turn-by-turn voice prompts to get you there is a bit more than what you get with the Microsoft product.
Regards,
John |
John Doub
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lvickers
Member
USA
5 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2003 : 06:47:19 AM
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Hi everyone.
Here's a question for you. Has anyone tried writing their own programs to interface with the GPS unit? I am attempting it for school and am woundering if there is any previous work I can learn from. I think I've opted to use a pocketPC versus a palm for the multithreading capabilities.
thanks!
Lucas |
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daveburley
New Member
1 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2003 : 1:17:20 PM
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I have just purchased a socket gps bluetooth reciever, im trying to use it with tom tom navigator v2. I have upgraded to latest version of tomtom and gps driver, but not sure which device and port to select in gps status.
I have tried assortments of device and bluetooth serial port com5 and com8, but i connect to the reciever fine but only get signal on 1 channel when i do.
Just wanted to know exactly what others settings are ?? |
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